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Kurt Andersen: Like many architects , David is a hog for the limelight , but is sufficiently reticent -- or at least pretends to be -- that he asked me to question him rather than speaking. 库尔特安德森:跟很多建筑师一样,大卫很想成为关注的焦点, 但是他又太沉默--至少是假装这样吧-- 以至他要求我向他提问而不是自己讲述。
architects:n.建筑师;设计师;创造者;(architect的复数); hog:n.猪;阉公猪;v.多占;独占; limelight:n.石灰光,石灰光灯;众人注目的中心;v.使显露头角,使受到注目; sufficiently:adv.充分地;足够地; reticent:adj.沉默的;有保留的;谨慎的;
In fact, what we're going to talk about, 实际上,我们今天要讨论的这个话题,
I think, is in fact a subject that is probably better served by a conversation than an address. 在我看来通过谈话的方式 比演讲的方式讲述也许更好。
And I guess we have a bit of news clip to precede . 我们先来看一段新闻短片。
clip:v.剪辑;修剪;削减;固定;n.夹;夹子;速度;钳; precede:v.在…之前发生(或出现);先于;走在…前面;
Dan Rather: Since the September 11th attack on the World Trade Center, many people have flocked to downtown New York to see, and pay respects, at what amounts to the 16-acre burial ground . 丹拉瑟: 从911世贸中心被袭击之后, 很多人都涌进纽约市区 那个16英亩的墓地来凭吊死者。
flocked:v.聚集(flock的过去分词);成群而行;n.植绒;舒美绒皮; downtown:n.市区;闹市区;adv.在市区;在热闹街上;到闹市区;adj.闹市区的; burial ground:n.坟地;
Now, as CBS's Jim Axelrod reports, they're putting the finishing touches on a new way for people to visit and view the scene. 现在,正如哥伦比亚广播公司的记者吉姆艾克斯罗德报道的,那些工人正在为一条新的通道做最后的装修。 这条新通道是专门供人参观现场的。
Jim Axelrod: Forget the Empire State Building or the Statue of Liberty -- there's a new place in New York where the crowds are thickest -- Ground Zero . 吉姆艾克斯罗德: 除了帝国大厦和自由女神像之外, 在纽约又有了个新地方 它是现在人群最拥挤的地方——世贸废墟中心。
Statue of Liberty:n.(美国纽约港的)自由女神像; Ground Zero:"爆心投影点"组织;着地点;
Tourist: I've taken my step-daughter here from Indianapolis . 游客: 我把我的继女从印第安纳波利斯带到这里了。
step-daughter:继女;养女; Indianapolis:n.印第安纳波利斯(美国印第安纳州首府);
This was -- out of all the tourist sites in New York City -- this was her number-one pick. 在纽约市众多的旅游景点中, 这是她的首选。
sites:n.网站(site的复数);遗址,举办地点;v.使...位于(site的单三形式);
JA: Thousands now line up on lower Broadway . 吉姆:现在成千上万的人正在下百脑汇街排队。
Broadway:n.百老汇(美国纽约市戏院集中的一条大街);
Tourist: I've been wanting to come down here since this happened. 游客: 自那事故以来,我一直想来这里看看。
JA: Even on the coldest winter days. 吉姆: 即使在最寒冷的冬天。
To honor and remember. 为了悼念和铭记。
Tourist: It's reality, it's us. It happened here. 游客: 它是真实发生的,就发生在我们身上,就发生在这里。
This is ours. 这是我们共同的苦难。
JA: So many, in fact, that seeing has become a bit of a problem. 吉姆: 事实上,人太多了,以至来这里凭吊已经 存在一些小问题。
Tourist: But I think that people are very frustrated that they're not able to get closer to see what's going on. 游客: 我想人们都很沮丧, 因为他们不能靠得更近看看到底是怎样的情况。
frustrated:adj.失意的,挫败的;泄气的;v.挫败;阻挠;(frustrate的过去式和过去分词)
JA: But that is about to change. 吉姆: 但是这个将会得到改变。
is about to:眼看就要;即将;正要;行将;
In record time, a team of architects and construction workers designed and built a viewing platform to ease the frustration -- and bring people closer. 以创纪录的速度, 一支由建筑师和建筑工人组成的队伍 设计并建造了一个观景台来缓解这种沮丧-- 可以让人们走的更近了。
construction:n.建设;建筑物;解释;造句; platform:n.平台; v.把…放在台上[放在高处; frustration:n.挫折;
Man: They'll get an incredible panorama . 某男子: 人们将会看到一个难以置信的场景。
incredible:adj.难以置信的,惊人的; panorama:n.全景,全貌;全景画;概论;
And understand, I think more completely, the sheer totality of the destruction of the place. 我想人们可以更加深刻的感受到, 世贸中心倒塌后的整体面貌。
sheer:adj.纯; v.十足地; n.透明薄纱; v.[航海](使)偏航; (使)转向; totality:n.[天]全食;全体;总数; destruction:n.破坏,毁灭;摧毁;
JA: If you think about it, Ground Zero is unlike most any other tourist site in America. 吉姆: 如果你稍微想想,你会发现世贸废墟中心并不像 美国其他绝大多数的旅游景点。
Unlike the Grand Canyon or the Washington Monument , people come here to see what's no longer there. 不像大峡谷和华盛顿山, 人们来到这里只是为了来看已经消失的东西。
Canyon:n.(周围有悬崖峭壁的)峡谷;( Monument:n.丰碑;纪念碑(或馆、堂、像等);历史遗迹;有历史价值的建筑;
David Rockwell: The first experience people will have here, when they see this, is not as a construction site , but as this incredibly moving burial ground. 大卫洛克威尔:人们看到这个的时候,第一个感受会是, 这个不像是个建筑工地, 而是一个难以置信的移动墓地。
construction site:na.建筑工地; incredibly:adv.难以置信地;非常地;
JA: The walls are bare by design, so people can fill them with their own memorials the way they already have along the current perimeter . 吉姆: 那些墙被设计成光秃秃的。这样人们可以在上面写上 他们自己的悼词,就像他们已经在 周围写的那样。
bare:adj.空的;赤裸的,无遮蔽的;v.露出,使赤裸; memorials:n.纪念碑(或像等);纪念品;(memorial的复数) perimeter:n.周长;周界;[眼科]视野计;
Tourist: From our hearts, it affected us just as much. 游客: 这些悼词深深触动了我们的心扉。
JA: The ramps are made of simple material -- the kind of plywood you see at construction sites -- which is really the whole point. 吉姆: 那些斜坡是用简单的材料搭建而成的-- 就是你在建筑工地可以看到的那种夹板-- 这个就是真正的重点。
ramps:n.[交]坡道(ramp的复数);斜坡;v.横冲直撞;敲诈勒索(ramp的三单形式); plywood:n.夹板,胶合板;
In the face of America's worst destruction, people are building again. 在面对美国所遭受的最严重的破坏的同时, 人们又开始重建。
In the face of:面对;
Jim Axelrod, CBS News, New York. 吉姆·阿克吉姆艾克斯罗德,哥伦比亚广播公司,在纽约报道。
KA: This is not an obvious subject to be in the sensuality segment , but certainly, David, you are known as -- I know, a phrase you hate -- an entertainment architect. 库尔特: 这个观景台并不是一个明显注重感官享受的建筑, 但是大卫,众所周知--我知道你讨厌这个词-- 你是一个娱乐场所建筑师。
obvious:adj.明显的;显著的;平淡无奇的; sensuality:n.好色;淫荡;喜爱感官享受; segment:n.段;部分;片;弓形;v.分割;划分;
Your work is highly sensual, even hedonistic . 你的作品都是很注重感官享受, 甚至是追求享乐主义的。
highly:adv.高度地;非常;非常赞许地; hedonistic:adj.快乐主义者的;快乐论的;快乐主义的;
DR: I like that word. 大卫: 我喜欢这个词。
KA: OK. It's about pleasure -- casinos and hotels and restaurants. 库尔特: 好吧。 你的作品都是关于享受的--像赌场,酒店和餐厅。
casinos:n.赌场;娱乐场(casino的复数);(意)乡间住宅;
How did the shock that all of us -- and especially all of us in New York -- felt on the 11th of September transmute into your desire to do this thing? 对于我们--尤其是我们纽约人 911所带来的震惊 是怎么促使你改变从而渴望去做这样一件事情的呢？
especially:adv.尤其;特别;格外;十分; transmute:vt.使变形;使变质;vi.变形;变质;
DR: Well, the truth of the matter is, post-September 11th, 大卫: 其实真实的原因是这样的。 911之后,
I felt myself in the role originally -- first of all as someone who lives in Tribeca and whose neighborhood was devastated , and as someone who works less than a mile from there -- 我去感受我自己原本真实的角色-- 首先我住在特里贝卡, 我的街坊邻居都被毁坏了, 而且我还在离世贸中心不到一英里的地方上班--
originally:adv.原来;起初; first of all:adv.首先; neighborhood:n.附近;地区;街坊;adj.附近的; devastated:adj.不安的,混乱的,震惊的; v.彻底破坏; (devastate的过去分词和过去式)
that I was in the role of forcing 100 people who work with me, in my firm, to continue to have the same level of enthusiasm about creating the places we had been creating. 在我的公司里,我曾经要求100个人和我一起工作, 一起怀着同样的热情 去创造我们一直以来创造的那些建筑。
enthusiasm:n.热心,热忱,热情;
In fact, we're finishing a book which is called "Pleasure," 事实上,我们将要完成一本可以称之为“享乐”的书,
which is about sensual pleasure in spaces. 内容是关于空间的感官享受。
But I've got to tell you -- it became impossible to do that. 但是我想告诉你--这本书变得不可能完成。
We were really paralyzed . 我们几乎都瘫痪了。
paralyzed:adj.瘫痪的;麻痹的;v.使麻痹;使无力;使失去勇气(paralyze的过去分词);
And I found myself the Friday after September 11th -- two days afterwards -- literally unable to motivate anyone and to do anything. 就在911后的礼拜五-- 也就是事情发生两天之后-- 我发现自己基本上不能激励任何人去做任何事了。
literally:adv.按字面:字面上:确实地: motivate:v.激励;激发;成为…的动机;是…的原因;
We gave the office a few days off. 我们只好给员工放了几天假。
And in discussing this with other architects, we had seen people saying in the press that they should rebuild the towers as they were -- they should rebuild them 50 stories taller. 再跟其他的一些建筑师讨论这个问题的时候, 我们发现人们在媒体上说 那些塔楼应该按原来的样子重建起来-- 甚至要比原来还要高50层。
And I thought it was astonishing to speculate , as if this were a competition , on something that was such a fresh wound . 在我看来,真是令人吃惊的想法, 你可以想象这就像一场竞赛, 就在我们刚刚受伤的伤口上竞赛。
astonishing:adj.令人十分惊讶的;v.使十分惊讶;使吃惊;(astonish的现在分词) speculate:v.推测;猜测;推断;投机;做投机买卖; competition:n.竞争;比赛,竞赛; wound:n.创伤,伤口;v.使受伤;受伤,伤害;
And I had a series of discussions -- first with Rick Scofidio and Liz Diller, who collaborated with us on this, and several other people -- and really felt like we had to find relevance in doing something. 对于这个我有过一系列的讨论-- 首先和里克斯科菲迪奥和利兹迪勒,他们和我合作建造这个项目, 还有一些其他人-- 我真的觉得我们必须找到共同点来一起做点什么。
series:n.系列,连续;[电]串联;级数;丛书; collaborated:v.合作;协作;通敌;勾结敌人;(collaborate的过去分词和过去式) relevance:n.关联;适当;中肯;
And that as people who create places, the ultimate way to help wasn't to pontificate or to make up scenarios , but to help right now. 对于建筑师来说,最终施与帮助的方式 不是武断的发表意见或者虚构一些方案, 而是立刻采取实质性的行动。
ultimate:adj.最终的;极限的;根本的;n.终极;根本;基本原则; pontificate:n.教皇的职位;vi.执行教皇职务;武断地表示意见; scenarios:n.情节;脚本;情景介绍(scenario的复数);
So we tried to come up with a way, as a group, to have a kind of design SWAT team . 所以我们尝试采用一种方式, 像一个整体,组成一支类似特警一样的设计团队。
come up with:提出;想出;赶上; SWAT team:n.特警队(SWAT全写为SpecialWeaponsandTactics);
And that was the mission that we came up with. 这个就是我们提出来的任务。
mission:n.使命,任务;代表团;布道;v.派遣;向…传教;
KA: Were you conscious of suddenly -- as a designer whose work is all about fulfilling wants -- suddenly fulfilling needs? 库尔特: 你是突然意识到-- 作为一个一直去满足人们欲望的设计师-- 转而去满足人们的需要吗？
conscious of:意识到; fulfilling:adj.让人感觉有意义的; v.实现; (fulfill的现在分词)
DR: Well, what I was aware of was, there was this overwhelming need to act now. 大卫: 坦白讲,我所知道的是, 有种马上采取行动的迫切需求。
overwhelming:adj.势不可挡的; v.压倒; (overwhelm的现在分词)
And we were asked to participate in a few projects before this. 在这之前,我们就被邀请参与一些项目。
participate:v.参加;参与;
There was a school, PS 234, that had been evacuated down at Ground Zero. 有个原本在世贸废墟中心的叫PS 234 的学校被疏散了。
evacuated:adj.疏散的:v.疏散,转移,撤离:(evacuate的过去式和过去分词形式):
They moved to an abandoned school. 他们搬迁到一个废弃的学校。
abandoned:adj.被抛弃的放纵的;v.抛弃;丢弃,离开;放弃;(abandon的过去分词和过去式)
We took about 20 or 30 architects and designers and artists, and over four days -- it was like this urban barn-raising -- to renovate it, and everyone wanted to help. 我们找到2,30个建筑师,设计者和艺术家, 花了超过4天的时间--就像这个城市的房屋建造一样-- 去翻新那个学校。每个人都想帮忙。
urban:adj.城市的;都市的;城镇的;都市音乐的; renovate:vt.更新;修复;革新;刷新;
It was just extraordinary . 确实非同一般。
extraordinary:adj.非凡的;特别的;离奇的;临时的;特派的;
Tom Otterness contributed , Maira Kalman contributed and it became this cathartic experience for us. 汤姆奥特尼斯做出了贡献,迈拉卡尔曼也做出了贡献。 对于我们来说,这个成了一次很痛快的经历。
contributed:v.捐献,捐赠(尤指款或物); (contribute的过去式和过去分词)
KA: And that was done, effectively, three weeks -- by October eighth or something? 库尔特:那个项目最后很有效率的完成了,只花了3个礼拜的时间-- 差不多在10月8号之前,是吗？
DR: Yeah. 大卫: 是的。
KA: Obviously, what you faced in trying to do something as substantial as this project -- and this is only one of four that you've designed to surround the site -- 库尔特: 很明显,在试图建造 这个实质性的项目的同时你会面对很多事情--短片上看到的只是 你设计的环绕废墟四周的观景台的四分之一--
substantial:adj.大量的;实质的;内容充实的;n.本质;重要材料;
you must have run up against the incredibly byzantine , entrenched bureaucracy and powers that be in New York real estate and New York politics ? 你一定遇到不少困难吧, 在同那些关系复杂又盘根错节的官僚和权力部门 纽约房地产界和政界打交道的时候？
run up against:撞上;偶遇;碰见;遭遇; byzantine:adj.拜占庭式的;东罗马帝国的;n.拜占庭人,拜占庭派的建筑师; entrenched:adj.根深蒂固的;v.使处于牢固地位;牢固确立;(entrench的过去式和过去分词) bureaucracy:n.官僚主义;官僚机构;官僚政治; real estate:n.房地产;不动产; politics:n.政治;钩心斗角;政治观点;v.(贬)从事政治活动;(politic的第三人称单数)
DR: Well, it's a funny thing. 大卫: 确实是件很有趣的事情。
We finished PS 234, and had dinner with a small group. 我们完成PS 234 的项目之后,同一个小组一起吃了晚饭。
I was actually asked to be a committee chair on an AIA committee to rebuild. 实际上我被邀请担任友邦保险有限公司重建委员会的主席。
committee:n.委员会;
And I sat in on several meetings. 之后我参加了一些会议。
And there were the most sort of circuitous grand plans that had to do with long-term infrastructure and rebuilding the entire city. 很多冗长的宏伟计划被提出来, 都是与长期的基础建设和整个城市的重建相关。
circuitous:adj.迂曲的;绕行的;迂回线路的; long-term:adj.长期的;从长远来看; infrastructure:n.基础设施;公共建设;下部构造;
And the fact is that there were immediate wounds and needs that needed to be filled, and there was talk about inclusion and wanting it to be an inclusive process . 实际的问题是,有很多紧迫的创伤和需求需要被抚慰和满足。 其中有个谈话是关于广泛性的,他们希望重建是一个广泛性的进程。
wounds:n.(身体上的)伤,伤口; v.使(身体)受伤; (wound的第三人称单数和复数) inclusion:n.包含;内含物; inclusive:adj.包括的,包含的; process:v.处理;加工;列队行进;n.过程,进行;方法,adj.经过特殊加工(或处理)的;
And it wasn't an inclusive group. 然而它并不是一个广泛代表性的组织。
So we said, what is -- 所以我们说,什么是--
KA: It was not an inclusive group? 库尔特: 它不是一个广泛性的组织？
DR: It was not an inclusive group. 大卫: 它不是。
It was predominantly a white, rich, corporate group that was not representative of the city. 它是由白人,富人和公司集团组成的组织 几乎不具有城市代表性。
predominantly:adv.主要地;显著地; corporate:adj.公司的;组成公司(或团体)的;法人的;社团的; representative:n.代表; adj.典型的;
KA: Shocking! 库尔特: 令人吃惊！
DR: Yeah, surprising. 大卫: 确实很令人吃惊。
So Rick and Liz and Kevin and I came up with the idea. 所以里克,利兹和我想出了那个方案。
The city actually approached us. 实际上是市政府先找到我们说这个事情。
approached:v.走近;临近;探讨;建议;(approach的过去分词和过去式)
We first approached the city about Pier 94. 我们开始找到市政府是谈论94号码头的事。
Pier:n.码头,直码头;桥墩;窗间壁;
We saw how PS 234 worked. 因为我们已经看到了PS 234 的项目是怎么做的。
The families -- the victims of the families -- were going to this pier that was incredibly dehumanizing . 而那些家属--遇害者的家属-- 都去那个码头,选择这个地方是非常不合理的。
dehumanizing:vt.使成兽性;使失掉人性;
KA: On the Hudson River? 库尔特:在亨登河？
Hudson:n.哈得孙河;
DR: Yeah. And the city actually -- through Tim Zagat initially , and then through Christyne Nicholas, then we got to Giuliani -- said, you know, we don't want to do anything with Pier 94 right now, 大卫: 是的。市政府实际上--一开始通过蒂姆扎加特, 然后通过克里斯特尼尼古拉斯, 最后我们找到朱利安尼市长-- 他说我们暂时不想对94号码头做什么事情,
initially:adv.最初,首先;开头;
but we have an observation platform for the families down at Ground Zero that we'd like to be a more dignified experience for the families, and a way to protect it from the weather. 但是如果我们能在世贸废墟中心给那些家属提供一个观景台, 那将是给那些家属们一个更加人性化的体验, 可以让他们避免风吹日晒。
observation:n.观察;观测;监视;(尤指据所见、所闻、所读而作的)评论; dignified:adj.端庄的; v.使有尊严; (dignify的过去分词和过去式)
So I went down there with Rick and Liz and Kevin, and I've got to say, it was the most moving experience of my life. 所以我同里克,利兹和凯文去了那里。 我不得不说,这是我生命中最感动的一次经历。
It was devastating to see the simple plywood platform with a rail around it, where the families of the victims had left notes to them. 看着简单的夹板和围栏搭成的平台,真是很让人触动 上面还有遇害者的家属留下的话语。
devastating:adj.毁灭性的; v.毁灭; (devastate的现在分词)
And there was no mediation between us and the experience. 在我们和这里的一切经历中无需任何调节
mediation:n.调解;仲裁;调停;
There was no filter . 没有任何的过滤。
filter:n.滤波器;过滤器;滤光器;滤声器;v.过滤;渗入;(用程序)筛选;缓行;
And I remembered on September 11th, on 14th Street, the roof of our building -- we can see the World Trade Towers prominently -- and I saw the first building collapse from a conference room on the eighth floor on a TV that we had set up. 我记得9月11号,在14号街, 我们的楼房屋顶上--我们可以清晰的看到世贸大厦-- 那时我看到了第一栋楼房倒塌 就在8楼会议室安装的电视上。
prominently:adv.显著地; collapse:vi.倒塌;瓦解;暴跌;vt.使倒塌,使崩溃;使萎陷;折叠;n.倒塌;失败;衰竭; conference:n.会议;研讨会;商讨会;体育协会(或联合会)
And then everyone was up on the roof, so I ran up there. 然后所有人都跑到屋顶上,我也跑上去了。
And it was amazing how much harder it was to believe in real life than it was on TV. 真的非常令人惊讶, 比起在电视上看到的场景,真的很难相信它会在现实生活中发生。
There was something about the comfort of the filter and, you know, how much information was between us and the experience. 有种关于过滤的安慰。 在我们和现实体验之间有太多的信息。
So seeing this in a very simple, dignified way was a very powerful experience. 所以说通过这种简单 而又威严的方式观看是一种非常强大的体验。
So we went back to the city and said, we're not particularly interested in the upgrade of this as a VIP platform, but we've spent some time down there. 所以后来我们又回到市政府那里,跟他们说, 我们现在对把94号码头升级成贵宾看台的想法一点兴趣都没有, 但是我们确实在这件事上花了些时间。
particularly:adv.特别地,独特地;详细地,具体地;明确地,细致地; upgrade:v.使升级;提升;改良品种;n.升级;上升;上坡;adv.往上;adj.向上的;
And at the same time the city had this need. 同时市政府也有这样的需要。
at the same time:同时;另一方面;与此同时;
They were looking for a solution to deal with 30 or 40 thousand people a day who were going down there, that had nowhere to go. 他们想要找到一个方案 去处理每天3,4万 去那里又没有其它地方可去的人群。
solution:n.解决方案;溶液;溶解;解答; nowhere:v.无处; n.无处; adj.不存在的;
And there was no way to deal with the traffic around the site. 同时他们也没有办法去控制废墟周围的交通。
So dealing with it is just an immediate master plan . 所以解决这个问题成了一个迫在眉睫的总体规划。
master plan:n.总体规划;总计划;
There was a way -- there had to be a way -- to get people to move around the site. 那里应该有一个通道--而且必须有个通道-- 让人们在废墟周围移动起来。
move around:v.走来走去;绕着…来回转;
KA: But then you've got to figure out a way -- we will skip over the insanely tedious process of getting permits and getting everybody on board -- but simply funding this thing. 库尔特: 但是之后你必须找出一个办法-- 我们就跳过那些获得批准 和让每个人各就各位的令人疯狂而厌烦的过程--简单来讲关于钱这个事情。
insanely:adv.疯狂地;狂暴地;精神错乱地; tedious:adj.沉闷的;冗长乏味的; funding:n.基金;资金;提供资金;v.为…提供资金;拨款给;(fund的现在分词)
It looks like, you know, a fairly simple thing. 虽然看上去是个相当简单的事情,
fairly:adv.相当地;公平地;简直;
But this was a half a million dollar project? 但是怎么说这差不多也是个50万美元的项目吧？
DR: Well, we knew that if it wasn't privately funded , it wasn't going to happen. 大卫: 确实。我们知道如果没有私人出资的话, 它将没法实现。
privately:adv.私下地;秘密地; funded:adj.提供资金的;v.提供资金;积存;提供资金偿付的本息;(fund的过去式);
And we also, frankly, knew that if it didn't happen by the end of the Giuliani administration, then everyone who we were dealing with at the DOT, and the Police Department and all of the -- we were meeting with 20 or 30 people with the city at a time. 坦白来讲,我们也知道如果不能 在朱利安尼市长任期内启动, 我们得重新和那些政府人员打交道, 包括交通部,警察局,所有这些政府部门的人-- 我们每次开会的2,30个政府部门的人一起。
Police Department:n.(美国城市中的)警察局;
And it was set up by the Office of Emergency Management . 后来是应急管理办公室启动了这个项目。
Emergency:n.紧急情况;突发事件;非常时刻;adj.紧急的;备用的; Management:n.管理;管理人员;管理部门;操纵;经营手段;
This incredible act on their part, because they really wanted this, and they sensed that this needed to happen. 对于他们来说确实是个很好的举措,因为他们真的很需要这个, 而且他们察觉到这个势在必行。
KA: And there was therefore this ticking clock? 库尔特: 因此就有了这个时间截点了？
Because Giuliani was obviously out three months after that? 我们知道朱莉安尼在那3个月后就离任了。
DR: Yeah. So the first thing we had to do was find a way to get this -- we had to work with the families of the victims, through the city, to make sure that they knew this was happening. 大卫: 是的。 所以我们要做的第一件事情就是通气-- 我们必须和遇难者家属一起 通过市政府,来确保他们都知道这个项目。
Because this didn't want to be a surprise. 因为我们不想这个项目让大家觉得突然。
And we also had to be as under the radar screen as we could be in New York, because the key was not raising a lot of objection and sort of working as quietly as possible. 而且我们还得在纽约尽可能的低调行事, 因为关键是不要引起很多的反对声音, 某种程度上尽可能悄悄地工作。
under the radar:坠入琴网;雷达之下;在雷达下; objection:n.反对;反对的理由;异议;
We came up with the idea of setting up a foundation , mainly because when we found a contractor who would build this, he would not agree to do this, even if we would pay him the money. 我们想到建立基金, 主要是因为当我们找到一个可能承建这个项目的承包商的时候, 他很可能不会同意做这个项目,即使我们会支付费用给他。
foundation:n.基础;地基;基金会;根据;创立; mainly:adv.大多;大部分;主要地;首要地; contractor:n.承包人;立契约者;
There needed to be a foundation in place. 所以我们需要一个基金。
So we came up with a foundation, and actually what happened was one major developer in New York -- 于是我们就建立了一个基金,实际上主要是 纽约一个大开发商--
KA: Who shall remain nameless , I guess? 库尔特: 我猜是谁甘愿隐姓埋名呢？
nameless:adj.不可名状的,难以形容的;匿名的;
DR: Yeah. His initials are JS, and he owns Rockefeller Center, if that helps anyone -- volunteered to help. 大卫: 他的名字首字母是JS,而且他拥有洛克菲勒中心, 希望这个可以帮大家猜猜--他志愿帮助我们。
initials:n.首字母;缩写;姓名中的大写字母(initial的复数); volunteered:v.自愿做;义务做;自愿参军;(volunteer的过去分词和过去式)
And we met with him. 后来我们和他见面。
The prices from the contractors were between five to 700,000 dollars. 承包商们的报价从5美元到70万美元都有。
contractors:n.[经]承包商;[法]立约人;合约商(contractor的复数);
And Atlantic-Heydt, who's the largest scaffolding contractor in the country, volunteered to do it at cost. 而美国最大的脚手架承包商亚特南迪克海特, 志愿以成本价承建这个项目。
scaffolding:n.脚手架;搭脚手架的材料;
So this developer said, "You know what, we'll underwrite the entire expense ." 所以那个大开发商说:“你知道吗,我们会支付整个费用。”
underwrite:vt.给...保险;承诺支付;签在...下;vi.经营保险业; expense:n.费用;开支;花费;开销;
And we said, "That's incredible!" 而我们说:“真是好极了！”
And I think this was the 21st, and we knew this had to be built and up by the 28th. 我想那天是21号, 而我们知道这个观景台必须在28号之前完工。
And we had to start construction the next day. 我们必须在第二天就开始建造。
We had a meeting that evening with his contractor of choice, and the contractor showed up with the drawings of the platform about half the size that we had drawn it. 那天晚上我们跟那个承包商开了个会, 那个承包商展示了观景台的草图, 可是它只有我们设计的一半大小。
KA: Sort of like the Spinal Tap scene where you get the tiny little Stonehenge , I guess? 库尔特:我猜有点像脊椎塔里的场景, 从那里可以看到微小的巨石阵？
Spinal Tap:n.腰椎穿刺(放液); Stonehenge:巨石阵
(Laughter) （笑）
DR: In fact, it was as if this was going to be window-washing scaffolding. 大卫: 实际上,它就像一个为擦窗户准备的脚手架。
There was no sense of the fact that this is -- next to Saint Paul -- that this is really a place that needs to be kind of dignified, and a place to reflect and remember. 一点都不符合当时的场景--紧挨着圣保罗教堂-- 那是一个需要庄严的地方, 一个需要尊重和纪念的地方。
Saint:n.圣人;圣徒;道德崇高的人;adj.神圣的;v.成为圣徒; reflect:v.反映;映出(影像);反射;表明,表达;
And I've got to say that we spent a lot of time, in putting this together, watching the crowds that gathered at Saint Paul -- which is just to the right -- and moving around the site. 我不得不说我们花了那么多时间 把这个搭建起来,看着那些聚集在圣保罗大教堂的拥挤的人群-- 正好在右边--在废墟周围移动
And I live down there, so we spent a lot of time looking at the need. 我住在那里,所以我们花了很长的时间去了解人们的需要。
And I think people were amazed at two things -- 我想人们会因为两个事情而感到震惊--
I think they were amazed at the destruction, but I think there was a sense of disbelief about the heroics of New Yorkers that I found very moving. 他们会因破坏而感到震惊, 但是我想人们也会因怀疑 纽约人感人的英雄主义而感到震惊。
disbelief:n.怀疑,不信; heroics:n.夸张的言行;装腔作势的豪言壮语;
Just the sort of everyday heroics of New Yorkers. 就是某种纽约人的日常的英雄主义。
So we were in this meeting, and the contractor literally said, "I'm going to lock the door, because this developer will not agree to have you leave till you've signed off on this." 所以在那个会议上,那个承包商着字着句的说, “我要把门锁起来,因为开发商 不会同意在你们签订这个合约之前放你们走的。”
And we said, "Well, this is half the size, it doesn't have any of the design features that have been agreed upon by everyone -- everyone in the city. 而我们说:“但是这只有一半大小, 也没有我们之前同意的任何设计特色 包括城市里的每一个人。
We'd have to go back to the beginning to do this." 我们必须从头开始做这个项目。”
And I convinced him that we should leave the room with the agreement to build it as designed. 最后我说服了他,在我们离开会议室之前 我们达成一致,按照原先的设计重新建造。
convinced:adj.坚信; v.使确信; (convince的过去分词和过去式)
The next day I got an email from the developer saying that he was withdrawing all funding. 第二天我收到开发商的邮件, 他说要撤掉所有的资金。
withdrawing:v.取出;拆下;后退;回收(withdraw的现在分词);
So we didn't know what to do, but we decided to cast a very wide net. 我们不知道怎么办, 但是我们决定要撒一张大网。
We emailed out letters to as many people as we could -- several people in the audience here -- who were very helpful. 我们给尽可能多的人发了邮件-- 包括很多在场的听众--他们都提供了很好的帮助。
KA: There was no thought of abandoning ship at that point? 库尔特: 那个时候就没有想过要放弃吗？
abandoning:v.放弃;屈服;(abandon的现在分词)
DR: No. In fact I told the contractor to go ahead. 大卫: 没有。事实上,我告诉那个承包商继续施工。
He had already ordered materials based on my go-ahead . 他也已经按照我的要求订购了材料。
go-ahead:n.前进,进步;放行信号;adj.前进着的;
We knew that one way or another, this was going to happen. 我们知道不管怎么样,这个项目总会完成。
And we just felt it had to happen. 我们只是觉得它必须完成。
KA: You were funding yourself, then, with contributions and this foundation. 库尔特: 后来你就自己出资,连同一些捐助和这个基金完成这个项目。
contributions:n.捐款;捐资;定期缴款;贡献;促成作用;(contribution的复数)
Richard, I think very correctly, made the point at the beginning -- before all the chair designers came out -- about the history of chair designers imposing aesthetic solutions on this kind of universal , banal , common problem of sitting. 我记得理查德 在刚开始就提到-- 就是在所有的项目首席设计师意识到之前-- 他说一直以来首席设计师 对这种很平常的设计问题都追求一种审美方案。
at the beginning:首先;从一开始;起初;从头开始; imposing:adj.壮观的; v.推行,采用; (impose的现在分词) aesthetic:adj.美的;美学的;审美的,具有审美趣味的; universal:adj.普遍的;全体的;全世界的;共同的; banal:adj.陈腐的;平庸的;老一套的;
It seems to me with this, that it was the opposite of that. 但是对我来说, 这个项目却恰恰相反。
Because this was an unprecedented , singular design problem. 因为这是个前所未有的,独一无二的设计问题。
unprecedented:adj.空前的;无前例的; singular:adj.单数的;单一的;非凡的;异常的;n.单数;
DR: Well, here's the issue . 大卫: 确实,这就是问题所在。
issue:n.重要议题;争论的问题;v.宣布;公布;发出;发行;
We knew that this was not in the sense of -- we think about the site, and think about the need for a memorial. 我们知道这个项目确实没有审美的特色-- 我们考虑了这个遗址,考虑到人们可能需要一种纪念碑一样的东西。
It was important that this not be categorized as a memorial. 但是有一点很重要,这个项目不是一种纪念物。
categorized:adj.分类的;v.分类(categorize的过去式);
That this was a place for people to reflect, to remember -- a kind of quiet place. 而是供人们来凭吊和纪念的场所-- 很肃穆的场所。
So it led us to using design solutions that created as few filters between the viewer -- as we said about the families' platform -- and the experience as possible. 这就使得我们选用了这种设计方案, 尽可能少的在观众和真实的体验之间产生过滤-- 就像我们之前说的家属看台一样。
filters:n.过滤器; v.过滤; (filter的第三人称单数和复数)
It's all incredibly humble material. 这个看台全都是用难以置信的普通的材料,
humble:adj.谦逊的; vt.使谦恭;
It's scaffolding and plywood. 就是脚手架和夹板。
And it allows -- by sort of the procession of the movement, up by Saint Paul's and down the other side, it gives you about 300 feet to go up 13 feet from the ground, to where you get the 360 degree view. 它可以使得观众移动起来, 可以上到圣保罗教堂那边然后从另一边下去。 它提供了300英尺长的通道,并可以把你带到离地13英尺的高度, 从那里可以看到360度的视角。
procession:n.行列; v.排队前进;
But the design was driven by a need to be quick, cheap, safe, respectful , flexible . 但是这个设计一直考虑到快速,廉价,安全,庄严和灵活性方面的需求。
respectful:adj.恭敬的;有礼貌的; flexible:adj.灵活的;柔韧的;易弯曲的;
One of the other things is this is designed to be moveable . 这其中的一个要求就是可以移动。
moveable:adj.可移动的;n.动产;
Because when we looked at the four platforms around the site, one of which is an upgrade of the families' platform, we knew that these had to be moveable to respond to changing conditions, and the changing definition of what Ground Zero is. 因为当我们看到废墟周围的四个平台, 其中一个是从家属看台更新而来的, 所以我们考虑到这些必须可以移动, 来应对不停改变的环境, 和对于世贸废墟中心是什么的这种定义的改变。
platforms:n.平台; v.把…放在台上; respond:vi.回答;作出反应;承担责任;n.应答;唱和; definition:n.定义;清晰度;(尤指词典里的词或短语的)释义;解释;
KA: Your work -- I mean, we've talked about this before -- a lot of your work, I think, is informed by your belief in, or your focus on, the temporariness of all things and the evanescence of things. 库尔特: 你的作品--我们之前已经讨论过这个问题-- 我想很多你的作品都是基于你的一种信念,或者说你专注于 表现所有事物的临时性和短暂性。
informed:adj.见多识广的; v.通知; (inform的过去分词和过去式) temporariness:n.暂时,临时; evanescence:n.逐渐消失;瞬息;幻灭;
And a kind of "Eat, drink, and be merry , for tomorrow we die," 像“吃,喝,享乐,因为我们明天可能就会死”,
merry:adj.愉快的;高兴的;
sort of sense of existence. 这种及时行乐的观念。
This is clearly not a work for the ages. 而这明显不是一个会长久存在的作品。
You know, a couple of years this thing isn't going to be here. 你知道,很多年之后,这个东西将不会存在了。
Did that require, as an architect, a new way of thinking about what you were doing? 作为一个建筑师, 这会要求你重新思考你那时正在做的东西吗？
To think of it as this purely temporary installation ? 去把它作为一个纯粹的临时性的建筑来考虑？
purely:adv.完全;仅仅; temporary:adj.暂时的,临时的;n.临时工,临时雇员; installation:n.安装;设施;设置;安装的设备(或机器);
DR: No, I don't think so. 大卫: 我不这样认为。
I think this is, obviously, substantially different from anything we'd ever thought about doing before, just by the nature of it. 在我看来,这个是有实质性的不同 相对于我们之前做的任何项目比起来
substantially:adv.实质上;大体上;充分地;
Where it overlaps with thoughts about our work in general is, number one -- the notion of collaboration as a sort of way to get things done. 一般来讲,除了对于我们工作的一些想法之外, 还有一个重要的概念--就是以某种方式联合起来一起把事情完成的概念。
overlaps:n.重叠部分(overlap的复数形式);v.重叠;重复(overlap的第三人称单数); in general:总之,通常;一般而言; notion:n.观念;信念;理解; collaboration:n.合作;勾结;通敌;
And Kevin Kennon, Rick Scofidio, Liz Diller and all the people within the city -- 凯文肯农,里克斯科菲迪奥,利兹迪勒 和城市里的所有人--
Norman Lear, who I spoke to four hours before our deadline for funding, offered to give us a bridge loan to help us get through it. 诺曼李尔, 在我们寻找资金的截止日期前的4个小时,我在跟他谈话, 他提供我们短期过度贷款来帮我们顺利度过难关。
deadline:n.最后期限;截止日期;
So the notion of collaboration -- 回到前面说的合作的概念--
I think this reinforces how important that is. 我想这个例子更加印证了这个概念的重要性。
reinforces:加固;加强;增援;巩固;
And in terms of the temporary nature of it, our goal was not to create something that would be there longer than it needed to be. 对于你所说的短暂性, 我们的目标不是去建造一个 比对它的实际需求还要长的建筑。
I think what we were most interested in was promoting a kind of dialogue that we felt may not have been happening enough in this city, about what's really happening there. 我想我们最感兴趣的是促进一种关于这个城市正在发生的事情的对话, 我觉得这种对话目前在这个城市还不够。 它是关于这个城市正在发生的事情的。
promoting:v.促进;推动;促销;提升;晋升;(promote的现在分词)
And a day or two before it opened was Giuliani's farewell address, where he proposed the idea of all of Ground Zero being a memorial. 在这个观景台开放的前一两天,正好是朱利安尼的离任致辞, 他提出一个想法,把整个世贸废墟中心建成一个纪念碑。
farewell:n.告别;辞行;v.为…举行送别仪式(或宴会); proposed:adj.建议的;推荐的;v.提议;建议;计划;求婚;(propose的过去分词和过去式)
Which was very controversial , but it resonated with a lot of people. 虽然这个想法引起了很大的争议,但是它也在很多人之间引起了共鸣。
controversial:adj.有争议的;有争论的; resonated:vt.共鸣;共振;vi.共鸣;共振;
And I think regardless of what the position is about how this sacred piece of land is to be used, having it come out of actually seeing it in a real encounter , 我想不管那个地方是关于什么, 不管这片神圣的土地将作何用途, 只要让人们的想法产生碰撞,
regardless:adj.不管的; v.不顾后果地; encounter:v.遭遇,邂逅;遇到;n.遭遇,偶然碰见;
I think, makes it a more powerful dialogue. 这就成了一个非常强有力的对话。
And that's what we were interested in. 而这个就是我们所感兴趣的。
So that, very much, is in the realm of things 所以说,也是属于
realm:n.领域,范围;王国;
I've been interested in before. 我之前一直感兴趣的领域。
KA: It seems to me, among other things, a lovely piece of civic infrastructure. 库尔特: 在我看来,跟其他的建筑物相比,这是一件很可爱的市政基础建设。
civic:adj.市的;公民的,市民的;
It enables that conversation to get serious. 它使对话变得严肃。
enables:v.使得; (enable的第三人称单数)
And six months after the fact -- and only a few months away from the site being cleaned -- we are very quickly, now, getting to the point where those conversations about what should go there are getting serious. 就在袭击之后的6个月-- 也就是废墟被清理干净后的几个月-- 我们就很快的让 关于在废墟上建什么的谈话变得严肃而认真。
Do you have -- having been as physically involved in the site as you have been, doing this project -- have any ideas about what should or shouldn't be done? 作为一个建筑师,已经深入到废墟现场, 去做这个项目,那么关于这个废墟--你有没有什么建议关于 应该做什么,不应该做什么？
involved:adj.有关的; v.涉及; (involve的过去式和过去分词)
DR: Well, I think one thing that shouldn't be done is evaluate -- 大卫: 我想有一件事情是不应该做的,那就是评价--
evaluate:v.评价;评估;估计;
I think right now the discussion is a very closed discussion on the master plan. 我发现现在的讨论都非常接近关于总体规划的讨论。
The Protetch Gallery recently had a show on ideas for buildings, which had some sort of inventive ideas of buildings. 最近普罗德施画廊举办了一个关于建筑理念的展览, 那里有些很新的建筑理念。
Gallery:n.画廊;走廊;旁听席;地道;v.在…修建走廊;挖地道; recently:adv.最近;新近; inventive:adj.发明的;有发明才能的;独出心裁的;
KA: But it had some really terrible ideas. 库尔特: 但是也有很多糟糕的理念。
DR: And it also felt a little bit like a kind of competition of ideas, where I think the focus of ideas should be on master planning and uses. 大卫: 它有点像个观念的竞赛, 我想理念的焦点应该放在总体的规划和使用上。
And I think there should be a broader -- which there's starting to be. 我想应该有一个更加宽广的思路--就像正在开始改变的那样。
The dialogue is really opening up to, what does this site really want to be? 对话真的正在展开, 关于这个废墟到底应该变成什么？
opening up:n.解禁;开放;供开发;启用;
And I truly believe until the issue of memorial is sorted out, that it's going to be very hard to have an intelligent discussion. 我坚持认为,除非关于建纪念碑的想法被放弃了, 不然很难有什么明智的讨论。
intelligent:adj.有才智的;悟性强的;聪明的;有智力的
There's a few discussions right now that I think are very positive , about depressing the West Side Highway and connecting this over, so that there's one uninterrupted piece of land. 现在有一些讨论我觉得非常的可行, 关于降下西边高速公路,然后把这里连接起来, 这样就有一个不受干扰的地方了。
positive:adj.积极的;[数]正的,[医][化学]阳性的;确定的;n.正数;[摄]正片; depressing:adj.令人抑郁的; v.使沮丧; (depress的现在分词) uninterrupted:adj.不间断的;连续的;
KA: Well, I think that's interesting. 库尔特: 这个想法很有趣。
And it gets to another issue that was probably inappropriate to discuss six months ago, but perhaps isn't now, which is, not many of us love the World Trade Center as a piece of architecture , as what it had done to this city, and that huge plaza . 它让我想起另外一个问题,可能并不是很合适 在六个月前讨论,但是现在也许可以了。 我们很多人并不喜欢这个城市里有世贸中心这个建筑, 还有那个巨大的广场。
inappropriate:adj.不适当的;不相称的; architecture:n.建筑学;建筑风格;建筑式样;架构; plaza:n.广场;市场,购物中心;
Is this an opportunity, is the silver lining -- a silver lining, here -- to rebuild some more traditional city grid , or not? 你觉得现在是一个机会吗-- 很有希望的机会--去重建 一些更加传统的城市建筑？
silver:n.银; v.给…镀(或包)银; adj.银色的; traditional:传统的,惯例的, grid:n.网格;格子,栅格;输电网;
DR: I think there's a real opportunity to engage in a discussion of why we live in cities. 大卫: 我想这倒真是一个机会开始讨论 我们为什么居住在城市。
engage:v.吸引,占用;使参加;雇佣;使订婚;预定;
And why do we live in places where such dissimilar people collide up against us each day? 为什么我们住在这样一个地方,如此不一样的人 每天彼此之间都有很多冲突？
dissimilar:adj.不同的; collide:vi.碰撞;抵触,冲突;vt.使碰撞;使相撞;
I don't think it has much to do with 50 or 60 or 70 or 80 thousand new office spaces, regardless of what the number is. 我不认为新建5万,6万,7万,或者8万新办公室有多少意义, 不管你建多少。
So yeah, I think there is a chance to re-look at how we think about cities 所以说,这是一个机会,重新审视我们是怎样看待城市。
And in fact, there's a proposal on the table now for building number seven. 事实上,已经有一个方案在讨论,是关于新建7号楼的。
proposal:n.提议,建议;求婚;
KA: Which was the building just north of the Towers? 库尔特: 就是世贸塔楼北边的那个建筑？
DR: Right, which the towers fell into. 大卫: 对的,塔楼正好倒在它的上面。
And the reason that's been held up is essentially by community outrage that they're not re-opening the street to connect that back to the rest of the city. 之所以一直耽搁主要是因为来自于社区居民的愤怒 他们一直关闭街道。 这个街道是连接城市的。
essentially:adv.本质上;本来; community:n.社区;[生态]群落;共同体;团体; outrage:n.愤怒,愤慨;暴行;侮辱;vt.凌辱,强奸;对…施暴行;激起愤怒;
So I think a public dialogue -- I think, you know, 所以我想要一个公开的对话--你知道的,
I'd like to see an international competition, and a call for ideas for uses. 我想看到一个国际化的竞争, 来征集建设方案。
KA: Whether it's arts, whether it's housing, whether it's amount of shopping? 库尔特: 不论它是艺术品,房屋, 还是大量的商场吗？
DR: Right. And we're looking for other things. 大卫: 对的。我们正在探索其他的东西。
This small foundation we put together is looking for other ways to help. 我们所建立的这个小基金正在寻求其他能够帮助的方式。
put together:..放在一起;组合;装配;
Including taking a small piece adjacent to the site and inviting 10 architects who currently don't have a voice in New York to do artist housing. 比如,在废墟附近找块小地方, 邀请10个目前在纽约还没有声望的建筑师 来作为艺术家住房。
adjacent:adj.邻近的,毗连的; currently:adv.当前;一般地;
And find other ways to encourage the discussion to be against sort of monolithic , single solutions, and more about a multiplicity of things. 同时寻找其他的方式鼓励更多的讨论 来反对单一的方案, 我们需要更多关于事物的多样性。
monolithic:adj.整体的;巨石的,庞大的;完全统一的;n.单块集成电路,单片电路; multiplicity:n.多样性;[物]多重性;
KA: Before we end, I know you have a piece of digital video of the experience of being on this platform? 库尔特: 在我们结束之前,我知道你还有一个短片要展示 是关于在这个观景台上的真实体验的
digital:adj.数字的;手指的;n.数字;键;
DR: John Kamen -- who's here, actually -- put together a two and a half minute piece that shows the platform in use. 大卫: 约翰卡门--就是短片上这个人--做了一个 2分半钟的短片来展示这个看台。
So I thought that would be good to end with. 所以我认为这是个很好的结束方式。
DR: We're looking from Fulton Street, west. 大卫: 我们正从富尔顿街的西面看过去。
One of the tricky issues we had with the Giuliani administration was, I had forgotten how anti-graffiti he was. 在我们和朱利安尼之间有个很有意思的问题, 我之前忘记了朱利安尼非常反对涂鸦。
tricky:adj.难办的;难对付的;狡猾的;诡计多端的; issues:n.重要议题;争论的问题;v.宣布;公布;发出;(issue的第三人称单数和复数)
And essentially our structure was designed to be written on. 而实质上我们的建筑就是用来涂写的。
KA: As you say, it's not a memorial. 库尔特: 就像你说的,它不是一个纪念碑。
But were you conscious of memorials? The Vietnam Memorial? 但是你之前有考虑过纪念碑吗？比如越战纪念碑？
Those kinds of forms? 这之类的一些形式？
DR: We certainly did as much research as we could, and we were conscious of other memorials. 大卫: 我们当然是做了尽可能多的研究, 我们也关注过其他的一些纪念碑。
And also the complexity and length of time they really take to do. 我们研究了它们的复杂性和实际上花费的时间。
complexity:n.复杂性;难以理解的局势
It's 350 people on the committee for Oklahoma City, which is why we thought of this as a sort of ad-hoc , spontaneous solution that expanded on Union Square and the places that were ad-hoc memorials in the city already. 实际上是因为俄克拉何马州的委员会上的350个人, 让我们觉得这个应该是自己组织的,自发的方案 来作为联合广场的延伸 也是这个城市里一个自发组织的纪念碑。
Oklahoma:n.美国俄克拉荷马州; ad-hoc:na.特别是;特别的; spontaneous:adj.自发的;自然的;无意识的; expanded:adj.扩充的;展开的;vt.扩大(expand的过去式);
The scaffolding you can see built up over the street is de-mountable. 你可以看到建在那个街道上方的脚手架,它是可以拆卸的。
What's interesting now is the nature of the site has totally changed, so that what you're aware of is not just the destruction of the buildings in Ground Zero, but all of the buildings around it -- and the scars on the building around it, which are enormous . 有趣的是,现在那个废墟的自然面貌已经彻底改变了, 以至你们现在所注意到的 不是在世贸中心的一些倒塌建筑物的碎块, 而是围绕在废墟周围的建筑-- 和它周围建筑上的伤痕,那些巨大的伤痕。
enormous:adj.庞大的,巨大的;凶暴的,极恶的;
This shows Saint Paul's on the left. 这左边就是圣保罗教堂。
KA: I just want to thank you on behalf of New Yorkers for making this happen and getting this done. 库尔特: 感谢你代表纽约人 能够促成这件事情。
on behalf of:代表;为了;
But the kind of virtually instantaneous nature of its erection , and its being there, almost before you could believe that a response of this magnitude could be accomplished , is part of its, I think, extraordinary -- 但是对于这个建筑的瞬时性, 和它的存在, 甚至在你可以相信 如此宏大的一个项目可以被完成之前, 我想这些就是它的非凡特性的一部分--
virtually:adv.事实上,几乎;实质上; instantaneous:adj.瞬间的;即时的;猝发的; erection:n.勃起;建造;建筑物;直立; response:n.响应;反应;回答; magnitude:n.大小;量级;[地震]震级;重要;光度; accomplished:adj.完成的;有技巧的;有学问的;v.完成;(accomplish的过去分词和过去式)
I don't know if beauty is the word -- but presence . 我不知道用美丽这个词是不是合适-- 但是对于它的意义来讲完全合适。
presence:n.存在;出席;参加;风度;仪态;
DR: It was an honor to do. 大卫: 能做这个项目也是我的荣幸。
And we were thrilled to be able to show it here. 我们也很激动能够在这里展示给大家。
thrilled:adj.非常兴奋; v.使非常兴奋; (thrill的过去分词和过去式)